Showing posts with label Maybe Logic. Show all posts
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Saturday, December 10, 2011
Tuesday, September 7, 2010
email to the tribe: A Maybe Logic Class with Fly Agaric 23
Fly Agaric 23
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September 20 - November 5
email to the tribe
Homogrammic Prose
Homogrammic Prose
The tale of the tribe approximates a tale of humanity, or 'tales', a new global epic that must capture illuminating details from humanity and juxtapose them in a special way using special language (Hologrammic prose, the Hermetic style, Ideogrammic method, Joyce's 'epiphany' etc.) Dr.Robert Anton Wilson crafted his tale of the tribe to suit, among other definitions; the architects of post-modem' cyber-culture, reaching back to the renaissance and pulling up-tense to our decentralized--hyper connected--future present.
During a six week period, I-fly will share his open interpretations of the tale of the tribe, performing an on-line multimedia vortex of signals, dialed into James Joyce, Ezra Pound, Giordano Bruno, Marshall Mcluhan, 'Bucky'Fuller, and RAW himself.
email to the tribe will reprocess communications from across time, and produce new maps, new metaphors, and mold new memes that help forward the tale of the tribe and the RAW wisdom oozing out from all quarters.
Each week fly will provide a spread of multimedia for you to process, generally keeping in step with the program, encouraging a wide variety of conversation and focused feedback. Feel free to drop in and drop out, as you like.
EMAIL TO THE TRIBE: WEEKLY PRESCRIPTION.
WEEK ONE - WHEELS AND CYCLES (Sep 20-26)
The wheels of the tribe go around and around.
WEEKLY DOSE: Decentralized and Rotational Map Warfare.
The wheels of the tribe go around and around.
WEEKLY DOSE: Decentralized and Rotational Map Warfare.
WEEK TWO - GENERAL EPIPHANY (Sep 27-3rd October)
Hologrammic Prose and meaningful common speech
WEEKLY DOSE: RAW-FLY interviews. (Oct 4-10)
Hologrammic Prose and meaningful common speech
WEEKLY DOSE: RAW-FLY interviews. (Oct 4-10)
WEEK THREE - IDEOGRAMMIC FULLERENE (Oct 11-17)
The synergy of history
WEEKLY DOSE: Vicosahedron and Canto LXVI. Open Source History.
The synergy of history
WEEKLY DOSE: Vicosahedron and Canto LXVI. Open Source History.
WEEK FOUR - GLOBAL FEEDBACK (Oct 18-24
If its not connected its useless
WEEKLY DOSE: Shannanigums Wave & Future Present.
If its not connected its useless
WEEKLY DOSE: Shannanigums Wave & Future Present.
WEEK FIVE - CINEMA OF UNITY (Oct 25-31)
Moving pictures to TV/Internet
WEEKLY DOSE: Maybe Logic & RAW Multimedia.
Moving pictures to TV/Internet
WEEKLY DOSE: Maybe Logic & RAW Multimedia.
WEEK SIX - THE TALE OF THE CYBERNET (Nov 1-5)
My-wiki-face-twitter
WEEKLY DOSE: Work of the tribe. email to the tribe.
My-wiki-face-twitter
WEEKLY DOSE: Work of the tribe. email to the tribe.
COURSE TEXTS: Recorsi by Robert Anton Wilson.
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Sunday, May 30, 2010
STOURBRIDGE in 'FINNEGANS WAKE' by James Joyce & 'CANTO LXVI' by Ezra Pound
STOURBRIDGE IN 'FINNEGANS WAKE' & EZRA POUND'S CANTO LXVI.
Steven James Pratt aka' Fly Agaric 23.
The Tale of the Tribe class was hosted by the Maybe Logic Academy and led by Dr. Robert Anton Wilson. The group focused on two major texts of the 20th Century: The Cantos of Ezra Pound and Finnegans Wake by James Joyce, both of which Dr. Wilson suggests require mastering, or at least reading, before entering into the 21st Century of hypermedia.
During the 8 week class I would often copy/paste images and hyperlinks to illuminate fragments from these two texts. This process gave me the general impression that the communications within both FW and The Cantos were maximally compressed, and CONDENSED like mp3 files.
I discovered that with sufficient attention and magnification of focus utilizing various webnet tools provided freely on the World Wide Web, a much richer and wholesome technicoloured reading experience emerged.
“I wish Mr. Pound would tell us what he believes,” T.S Eliot lamented in 1932. In Make it New (1933), Pound answered tersely, “I believe the Ta Hsio.” This would seem to settle the matter: Ezra Pound was neo-Confucian.”--Robert Anton Wilson, The Goddess of Ezra Pound, Illuminati Papers, 1980.
Finnegans Wake' by James Joyce, and The Cantos of Ezra Pound exhibit mind like qualities, I have found. Text and ‘reality’ processors sucking in history, even today, maybe tomorrow, but these books have stood the tests of time, and still stand up today as masterpieces of language literature and history, true and tested 'tales of the tribe'. The bar has been set so high that we are still trying to reach it.
Prophecy has a kind of reverse effect of immortality, that may lead to everyone being ‘right’ all the time, but them equally everyone being ‘wrong’ all the time. Getting beyond ‘being’ then might be a good idea for life in the bardo data stream, the digital holographic ‘process’ we experience today in 2010.
Much of the special synchronistic material I have found in the these texts derives from the work catalogued by Robert Anton Wilson in the Joyce/Pound scholarship running throughout every piece of his extraordinary works. I recommend them all highly, especially Quantum Psychology, Coincidance, Cosmic Trigger and the Schroedingers Cat Trilogy.
My collection of relative Epiphanies and most meaningful synchronistic' encounters are the beginnings of my Joyce/Pound research and practice, inspired by Bob and deployed throughout my blogs over the last five years or more.
In August of 2005, I discovered to my astonishment that ‘Stourbridge’ was brewing nicely within Finnegans Wake, right there, slap bang on page 184. Since then I have used this message to me, from James Joyce, as a meaningful enough synchronicity to base my more far-out ideas about Finnegans Wake, and hypertext.
There is a sister/brother town, or living museaum place called ‘Sturbridge’ in Massachusetts, New England, U.S.A. It was settled in 1729 and officially incorporated into the Union in 1738 E.V. Today the Rotary Clubs of Stourbridge and Sturbridge are twinned and regularly visit each other, but I doubt they are aware of this literary connection with Ezra Pound, James Joyce and with John Adams, who I am sure they do know a bit about, being the second president of the United States, and first Vice President.
From, Finnegans Wake by James Joyce.
A ‘Lithargogalenu’ maybe derived from the greek lithargyros: a monoxide of lead ore, or dross left after smelting lead, if so, that fits with the local glass and pottery industries around the Stourbridge area. But the word ‘clay’ brings us to the major contributing factor as to why folks settled in and around Stourbridge and why pottery, smelting and the glass industry flourished, the special clay enabled greater experimental conditions for innovating the arts and crafts and industrial applications of ‘fire’ clay.
From Ezra Pound’s Canto LXVI
After some Googling through wikipedia and environs and some traditional book worming I discovered the diaries of John Adams and that he visited England and wrote about his travels in great detail, as a prolific writer, compared with the modern scripted puppets.
It appears from his diaries that he visited Stratford, Birmingham and Worcestershire while on cultural exchange trips. The historical fact that John Adams, the second president of the United States of America was impressed enough to write beautiful verse about Stourbridge and environs interests me deeply, both as a lover of poetry, and of history.
This geographical and historical precedent provides the precise kind of space/time portal of discovery I was waiting for, a link to my biological place of origin and cultural identity with the ‘tale of the tribe’ or two of its major characters and both of their Magnum Opus.
Another word that punched me in the front teeth within the ‘Stourbridge’ Canto LXVI is "Dudley" that is the name of the Metropolitan Borough in which Stourbridge is situated ever since ‘Dudley Borough’ swallowed up Stourbridge into its sovereign state, back in 1974 (54 p.s.U).
Before this date Stourbridge was incorporated into the ancient parish of Oldswinford, that is featured in the doomsday book and the Magna Charta.
Dudley Metropolitan Borough is presently the 2nd most populated town in the United Kingdom and still mushrooming in 2010. Further research led me to discover that Pound was probably referring to William Wade Dudley (1842-1909) a soldier in the American civil war, a sly lawyer and slick government official, a Republican campaigner and a "crooked" electioneer (Election engineer).
In my excitement I thought he meant the brute Robert Dudley, the guy with the castles and the land named after him and his dynasty of Dudley’s. John Dee was Robert Dudley’s uncle, a fact that I find of historical significance due to Dee’s influence on the re-discovery of American and the British Empire.
Another name for the compounded regions around Dudley used colloquially is the ‘Black Country’, so named according to Occult folk-lore, due to the clouds of toxic pollutants and by-products from the 18-20th revolution taking place, or the industrial variety, in the back garden of the Midlands, England. What I interpret today, through the gloss of a gloss of Pound’s Cantos, rampant exploitation and privatization of what is naturally abundant in nature, such as water, gas, oil, vegetation and minerals. Who distributes it, how?
Lord Coke (1552-1634), the colonial entrepreneur and jurist appears in Pound's "Tale of the tribe" as a heroic entity providing a clear exhibit of a mind in history that Pound could anchor his pirate ship poem to, a balanced weight for the latter Cantos.
At the end of Canto LXVI another word jumped off the page at me: “Shires” This appears on the last but one line of the poem. Shires is used today to identify many rural areas in England, Australia and America, i.e Herefordshire, Worcestershire, Staffordshire, Yorkshire, Cambridgeshire etc.
Readers of J.R.R Tolkien will be familiar with the Shires and their rural context from his popular tales and ubiquitous fictional folk law. Pound's Cantos process and interact through the reader with a similar ‘ubiquitous relationship between mankind and Nature, but Pound in a very different mode to Tolkien, albeit a metaphysical, imagist, ideogramic mode of representation and juxtaposition in the language of poetry. A new language of meaning, a new historic synthesis of world cultures and scripts and texts all mixed up together, like Finnegans Wake in this respect, but unlike Joyce’s ‘nat language’.
By brilliantly harpooning various fragments from many different cultures, often rare and bloody notes collected from the rubble of war and decay around him, Pound brews up a swirling cloud of exhibits that happened to catch ‘Stourbridge’ in its net.
To enact the pushing and pulling forces on the word and sentence to make a literary vortex, may come from turning two valued polarities upon themselves. Joyce and Pound are both masters of casting thousands of shades and subtle tones a rainbow spectrum of light, full and bursting that can shatter and refract any two valued conclusion that may lead to historical certainty.
Poetic ambiguity and multi valued logic systems emerge in the mind of the reader and the tribe of readers and speakers, the vortext of twisted history spins a full turn of human DNA change, civilization unwinding the cosmic ages, coming and going in cycles, chapters, sagas and ragas.
The "Hologramic" process appears wonderfully well detonated within Dr. Wilson's book: "Coincidance: A Head Test." He sometimes calls this phenomena "Holographic prose" but it often escapes identification itself because of its ubiquitous presence, like atomic particles and the question ‘what if?’
Wilson has incorporated vast amounts of illuminated historical details using his own methodological historicism and his holographic writing to the Universe all-at-once.
I wish to highlight the positive attributes of historical revisionism as a tool through which poetry becomes a portal for a new kind of Group Cultural Archeology, a social uprising of readers, writers and scholar activists, a network of like minded, and free spirited individuals, a little bit like the 'wikipedia' community of info-phobes. Write on.
Brierley Hill is another local town in the Dudley Borough and turned up some interesting ‘brier’ tuck, when searched as a word in Finnegans Wake, for example:
Edited in Amsterdam, 2008 & 2010.
Sources:
Here is a link to the STOURBRIDGE wikipedia entry I edited to include this literary Joyce, Pound, Stourbridge link.
- James Joyce Finnegans Wake, part 1, Episode 6. Page 184
- Ezra Pound, Canto LXVI, line 30, Page 380.
Joyce's interest in Stourbridge is self evident from the passage quoted above and Stourbridge found its way into Pound's The Cantos via John Adams the second President of the United States, whose diary entry from 1786 Pound translated into his own epic poem.
Steven James Pratt aka' Fly Agaric 23.
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| Two Pears, one Ram chained to a bridge? |
The Tale of the Tribe class was hosted by the Maybe Logic Academy and led by Dr. Robert Anton Wilson. The group focused on two major texts of the 20th Century: The Cantos of Ezra Pound and Finnegans Wake by James Joyce, both of which Dr. Wilson suggests require mastering, or at least reading, before entering into the 21st Century of hypermedia.
During the 8 week class I would often copy/paste images and hyperlinks to illuminate fragments from these two texts. This process gave me the general impression that the communications within both FW and The Cantos were maximally compressed, and CONDENSED like mp3 files.
I discovered that with sufficient attention and magnification of focus utilizing various webnet tools provided freely on the World Wide Web, a much richer and wholesome technicoloured reading experience emerged.
“I wish Mr. Pound would tell us what he believes,” T.S Eliot lamented in 1932. In Make it New (1933), Pound answered tersely, “I believe the Ta Hsio.” This would seem to settle the matter: Ezra Pound was neo-Confucian.”--Robert Anton Wilson, The Goddess of Ezra Pound, Illuminati Papers, 1980.
Finnegans Wake' by James Joyce, and The Cantos of Ezra Pound exhibit mind like qualities, I have found. Text and ‘reality’ processors sucking in history, even today, maybe tomorrow, but these books have stood the tests of time, and still stand up today as masterpieces of language literature and history, true and tested 'tales of the tribe'. The bar has been set so high that we are still trying to reach it.
Prophecy has a kind of reverse effect of immortality, that may lead to everyone being ‘right’ all the time, but them equally everyone being ‘wrong’ all the time. Getting beyond ‘being’ then might be a good idea for life in the bardo data stream, the digital holographic ‘process’ we experience today in 2010.
Much of the special synchronistic material I have found in the these texts derives from the work catalogued by Robert Anton Wilson in the Joyce/Pound scholarship running throughout every piece of his extraordinary works. I recommend them all highly, especially Quantum Psychology, Coincidance, Cosmic Trigger and the Schroedingers Cat Trilogy.
My collection of relative Epiphanies and most meaningful synchronistic' encounters are the beginnings of my Joyce/Pound research and practice, inspired by Bob and deployed throughout my blogs over the last five years or more.
In August of 2005, I discovered to my astonishment that ‘Stourbridge’ was brewing nicely within Finnegans Wake, right there, slap bang on page 184. Since then I have used this message to me, from James Joyce, as a meaningful enough synchronicity to base my more far-out ideas about Finnegans Wake, and hypertext.
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| Bonded Warehouse, Stourbridge. 2009. |
There is a sister/brother town, or living museaum place called ‘Sturbridge’ in Massachusetts, New England, U.S.A. It was settled in 1729 and officially incorporated into the Union in 1738 E.V. Today the Rotary Clubs of Stourbridge and Sturbridge are twinned and regularly visit each other, but I doubt they are aware of this literary connection with Ezra Pound, James Joyce and with John Adams, who I am sure they do know a bit about, being the second president of the United States, and first Vice President.
From, Finnegans Wake by James Joyce.
"Of course our low hero was a self valeter by choice of need so
up he got up whatever is meant by a stourbridge clay
kitchenette and lithargogalenu fowlhouse for the sake of akes (the
umpple does not fall very far from the dumpertree)"
- Finnegans Wake, part 1, Episode 6. Page 184.
A ‘Lithargogalenu’ maybe derived from the greek lithargyros: a monoxide of lead ore, or dross left after smelting lead, if so, that fits with the local glass and pottery industries around the Stourbridge area. But the word ‘clay’ brings us to the major contributing factor as to why folks settled in and around Stourbridge and why pottery, smelting and the glass industry flourished, the special clay enabled greater experimental conditions for innovating the arts and crafts and industrial applications of ‘fire’ clay.
From Ezra Pound’s Canto LXVI
"and i went in a post chaise
Woburn Farm, Stowe, Stratford
Stourbridge, Woodstock, High Wycombe and back to
Grosvenor Sq" - Canto LXVI, line 30, Page 380.
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| Canto LVXI by Ezra Pound, page 380. |
After some Googling through wikipedia and environs and some traditional book worming I discovered the diaries of John Adams and that he visited England and wrote about his travels in great detail, as a prolific writer, compared with the modern scripted puppets.
It appears from his diaries that he visited Stratford, Birmingham and Worcestershire while on cultural exchange trips. The historical fact that John Adams, the second president of the United States of America was impressed enough to write beautiful verse about Stourbridge and environs interests me deeply, both as a lover of poetry, and of history.
This geographical and historical precedent provides the precise kind of space/time portal of discovery I was waiting for, a link to my biological place of origin and cultural identity with the ‘tale of the tribe’ or two of its major characters and both of their Magnum Opus.
Another word that punched me in the front teeth within the ‘Stourbridge’ Canto LXVI is "Dudley" that is the name of the Metropolitan Borough in which Stourbridge is situated ever since ‘Dudley Borough’ swallowed up Stourbridge into its sovereign state, back in 1974 (54 p.s.U).
Before this date Stourbridge was incorporated into the ancient parish of Oldswinford, that is featured in the doomsday book and the Magna Charta.
Dudley Metropolitan Borough is presently the 2nd most populated town in the United Kingdom and still mushrooming in 2010. Further research led me to discover that Pound was probably referring to William Wade Dudley (1842-1909) a soldier in the American civil war, a sly lawyer and slick government official, a Republican campaigner and a "crooked" electioneer (Election engineer).
In my excitement I thought he meant the brute Robert Dudley, the guy with the castles and the land named after him and his dynasty of Dudley’s. John Dee was Robert Dudley’s uncle, a fact that I find of historical significance due to Dee’s influence on the re-discovery of American and the British Empire.
Another name for the compounded regions around Dudley used colloquially is the ‘Black Country’, so named according to Occult folk-lore, due to the clouds of toxic pollutants and by-products from the 18-20th revolution taking place, or the industrial variety, in the back garden of the Midlands, England. What I interpret today, through the gloss of a gloss of Pound’s Cantos, rampant exploitation and privatization of what is naturally abundant in nature, such as water, gas, oil, vegetation and minerals. Who distributes it, how?
" this 41st section repeals MAGNA
CHARTA the 19th chapter
as follows the words: NO FREEMAN...to... by his peers
and the law of the land
Whereon said Lord Coke, speaking of Empson and Dudley,
the end of these two oppressors
shd/ deter others from continuing the like”
--Ezra Pound, Canto LXVI.
Lord Coke (1552-1634), the colonial entrepreneur and jurist appears in Pound's "Tale of the tribe" as a heroic entity providing a clear exhibit of a mind in history that Pound could anchor his pirate ship poem to, a balanced weight for the latter Cantos.
"A good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving". - Lao Zi
At the end of Canto LXVI another word jumped off the page at me: “Shires” This appears on the last but one line of the poem. Shires is used today to identify many rural areas in England, Australia and America, i.e Herefordshire, Worcestershire, Staffordshire, Yorkshire, Cambridgeshire etc.
Readers of J.R.R Tolkien will be familiar with the Shires and their rural context from his popular tales and ubiquitous fictional folk law. Pound's Cantos process and interact through the reader with a similar ‘ubiquitous relationship between mankind and Nature, but Pound in a very different mode to Tolkien, albeit a metaphysical, imagist, ideogramic mode of representation and juxtaposition in the language of poetry. A new language of meaning, a new historic synthesis of world cultures and scripts and texts all mixed up together, like Finnegans Wake in this respect, but unlike Joyce’s ‘nat language’.
By brilliantly harpooning various fragments from many different cultures, often rare and bloody notes collected from the rubble of war and decay around him, Pound brews up a swirling cloud of exhibits that happened to catch ‘Stourbridge’ in its net.
"By another clause (in our Charter)
that the great and general court or assembly
shd/ have power
to erect judicatories courts of record
and other courts
to determine pleas processes plaints actions etc
whereby a law (2 William III) have established etc
and in Edward IV this Beauchamps commission
was, for the uncertainty, VOID
By letters patent and under great seal
in all shires, counties palatine and in Wales
and any other dominions
- Canto LXVI, Page 386.
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| Stourbridge Town Center. Photo by Fly. |
To enact the pushing and pulling forces on the word and sentence to make a literary vortex, may come from turning two valued polarities upon themselves. Joyce and Pound are both masters of casting thousands of shades and subtle tones a rainbow spectrum of light, full and bursting that can shatter and refract any two valued conclusion that may lead to historical certainty.
Poetic ambiguity and multi valued logic systems emerge in the mind of the reader and the tribe of readers and speakers, the vortext of twisted history spins a full turn of human DNA change, civilization unwinding the cosmic ages, coming and going in cycles, chapters, sagas and ragas.
The "Hologramic" process appears wonderfully well detonated within Dr. Wilson's book: "Coincidance: A Head Test." He sometimes calls this phenomena "Holographic prose" but it often escapes identification itself because of its ubiquitous presence, like atomic particles and the question ‘what if?’
Wilson has incorporated vast amounts of illuminated historical details using his own methodological historicism and his holographic writing to the Universe all-at-once.
"Fly Agaric 23: Could you explain a little bit about your holographic prose?
RAW: No. I'm struggling to write a whole book about
that right now and can't imagine how to
condense it. Besides, it's the hardest
part of my work to translate...
I'll give you two related samples from the Illuminatus and see what you
can make of them: "They shall come to gno gods."
"They shall come to gnu godz."
I wish to highlight the positive attributes of historical revisionism as a tool through which poetry becomes a portal for a new kind of Group Cultural Archeology, a social uprising of readers, writers and scholar activists, a network of like minded, and free spirited individuals, a little bit like the 'wikipedia' community of info-phobes. Write on.
Brierley Hill is another local town in the Dudley Borough and turned up some interesting ‘brier’ tuck, when searched as a word in Finnegans Wake, for example:
Triss! Only trees such as these such were those, waving there, the barketree, theBy Steve James Pratt, Stourbridge, England 2006.
o'briertree, the rowantree, the o'corneltree, the behanshrub near
windy arbour, the magill o'dendron more. Trem! All the trees
in the wood they trembold, humbild, when they heard the
stoppress from domday's erewold. –James Joyce, FW, page 588.
Edited in Amsterdam, 2008 & 2010.
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| Fly @ the Ten Arches, near Stourbridge |
Sources:
- The Cantos of Ezra Pound, New Directions Publishing
- Finnegans Wake, James Joyce. Faber & Faber
- The Tale of the Tribe, Micheal Berstein, University Press.
- The Adams Papers, Harvard University Press.
- Coincidance, Robert Anton Wilson. New Falcon.
- The Illuminati Papers, Robert Anton Wilson. Ronin Press.
- Illuminatus Trilogy!, Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson,
- Wikipedia.com
- 76' One World and the Cantos of Ezra Pound, Forrest Reed.
Here is a link to the STOURBRIDGE wikipedia entry I edited to include this literary Joyce, Pound, Stourbridge link.
In popular culture
Stourbridge appears in two great works of poetry from the 20th century: Finnegans Wake by James Joyce and The Cantos of Ezra Pound.| “ | Of course our low hero was a self valeter by choice of need so up he got up whatever is meant by a stourbridge clay kitchenette and lithargogalenu fowlhouse for the sake of akes (the umpple does not fall very far from the dumpertree) | ” |
| “ | and i went in a post chaise Woburn Farm, Stowe, Stratford, Stourbridge, Woodstock, High Wycombe and back to Grosvenor Sq | ” |
Joyce's interest in Stourbridge is self evident from the passage quoted above and Stourbridge found its way into Pound's The Cantos via John Adams the second President of the United States, whose diary entry from 1786 Pound translated into his own epic poem.
Monday, March 15, 2010
On the question of Philosophical recognition and RAW
In the UK, I experienced the feeling that something was wrong with the fact that most of my hero's and quality critters were not on any study program, and the teachers I spoke with looked baffled at the idea that you can pass on something that you think might be important for learning, for education and fun and lifting the spirits.
I would distinguish the difference between RAW and the Academic Philosphers by using the word 'street level, or street-wise' philosopher. RAW also fits the armchair philosopher, and even wheelchair philosopher model, for me, and will be forever be a beloved American Irish philosopher, along the current of Bishop Berkeley, O' Brien, Swift, Hamilton, Synge, Yeats, Joyce. Philosophy as art and art as philosophy. Poetry, Drama, Satire? Maybe that is partly resonsible for the RAW hush hush'?
I feel that RAW dissolves the imperialist paradigm, to go into some mighty big ideas for a mo', and remains unrecognized in Britain, maybe, in part because he has such a torrential rain of Celtic Twilight' acid it rubs up Brit' authority the wrong way, I have not heard this said much, but the question of recognition, Academic Recognition of philosophers is one I hold interest in, as, in my humble opinion... RAW and his tribes' just about wrap up the neurological relativisim of the Internet 'global village' age, with such cutting satire and explosive 'kapow' that you just feel the pull of truth-fun. Collectively, maybe some can recreate the vibe, but as an individual author, writer, philosopher, Dr. Wilson pulled it all together, at least for me. Maybe I skipped a few other philosophers?
I wish it were easier for me to create a divide between my own ideas, writing and thoughts, and my strong wish to forward the ideas and work left by Dr. Wilson. I have shrugged off the brush of being called a RAW disciple and continued the work, pulled along my this great community, without whom I maybe stuck in a bedroom in a life of books. I keep wanting to repeat simply 'Read him' and 'read him again' because RAW writes for the careful reader and the lucky re-reader, I think...
I have since moved from the UK, in part due to a lack resources to study and getting very little feedback from others outside of this here community, I had problem's simply giving the Maybelogic: DVD documentary movie to libraries, colleges and Universities. No interest, sadly. But now with youtube they can kiss the sky, the movies everywhere... and now I think where are their classes? where are the lectures? TED.com vs. Any UK university? such and such conference... and on.... Maybe in other parts of the UK I would have found better reception, but here in Amsterdam I find that the philosophy and thinking of some 'street level' philosophers can be grok'd, if only for a fleeting moment. But still, the cats are not recognized by the Academic Institutions, as far as I am aware.
Enjoy your class psyber, hope to hear more feedback and good luck with turning on your teachers to our man.
Some thoughts on RAW studies and finding a side-door entrance to the UK curriculum and the European market stall’ at the Global village.
I think RAW respected the multiculturalism, pantheism and diversity of languages and ideas of the quality critters he often referred to. Pound, Joyce, Yeats, Bruno, Vico, and Fenollosa were scribes for the McLuhan’s ‘global village’. And as I mentioned, therefore against British imperialism and centralized control of institutions, banking, education, politics, weapons.
RAW deploys ‘decentralized’ philosophy (Bruno, Joyce, Paul Levinson?) that we can trace through his fiction, his ‘holographic prose’, his speech, and through his life lived as a truly independent scholar activist journalist philosopher...
The study of Internet and Information technology, telecommunications etc,. Seems all the rage at the major learning institutions around the world, yet, where can you study ‘the tale of the tribe’? RAW’s history of ‘decentralized philosophy, and design science principles, and Neuro-linguistic relativism’ maybe one way to view it? What do Bucky, Shannon, Wiener, McLuhan... and Internet have in common?
Sharing, and the rare ability to share personal experience with a scientific method of observation, or methods, plural, maybe another thorn in RAW’s side when it comes to the education business, where text books and course work feed the Industry standards in the grey room. ‘think for yer’ self’ schmuck’ combined with ‘think for yourself, and question authority’ combined with the ‘free’ shared availability of RAW’s course work may lead to a sticky situation for many faculty staff and department heads, at some future juncture where ‘everything changes’ so obviously that only RAW and a few others will have remained weird enough to stay relative in a ‘exponentially changing’ seemingly psychedelic shared experience.
Or maybe I am dreaming and have cut myself off to live out an Invisible college’ fantasy, and to forever be stuck apart from any Institution, so to develop my independent feedback? Stephen in self inflicted Exile? A romantic, maverick, ? Whatever, with global internet communications we can all live as one University, if you like, as Wikipedia is now One university of one type of knowledge...and the power of connectivity and sharing across cultures far out reaches that of any single Institution of single corporate, sovereign entity. I think their definition as a finite entity bounds them, in many ways, whereas the Network seems to be king, not content, or cash or weapons stash. All has Changed and changed utterly’
Another of RAW’s unique and testable strokes of genius is to source and reference masses of academic material that now, due to internet search engines can still, and often does for me, turn up treasures in all sorts of nooks and cranniz’ take Ernest Fenollosa for example, I find the Fenollosa/Pound/Yeats synergy (founded in London when Mary McNeil Fenollosa passed on her late husbands notes to Ez, who was living with Yeats at the time) to be critical to the whole field of modernism, Post modernism, linguistics etc,. And have been surprised to have not found RAW anywhere in the published literature on this subject.
Here’s a little anecdotal example of my efforts to fwd/ RAW in the UK during the summer of 2006. I was invited by the SDP (who I bumped into on the street in Birmingham) to MARXISM’ a week-long conference held a University London, featuring many speakers on varied topics, all with a socialist and pretty political oriented glossing. While on the Uni’ campus, I tried walking into SOAS (School of Oriental and African Studies) with the express vision of turning somebody onto RAW’s interpretation of the Fenollosa’ manuscripts etc. But, I could not even get in the door past security, sorry son, you have to have an appointment. I did however get up and speak at a number of presentations, one time reading a full chapter from the Illuminati Papers, in a weak lecture on science fiction and social activism, I thought it was weak as the guy had not even heard of RAW... but the dialectic was all over the place. Book stands were lined up with Chomsky, Zinn, Parenti, George G, Tony Benn, Che’, Banksy and Hakim Bey, but alas uncle Bob was suspiciously absent, or, I was too stoned to see his books amidst all sea TEXTZ on resistance and revolution, although I did find him in the Disinfo’ book ‘Everything you know is wrong’
So I came away from Marxism 2006 a bit miffed, but still had a fun time and met many like-minded individuals who were visiting the event, and even liked the lecturers and speakers, maybe for their rhythm and prowess on the microphone, George G. And Tony Benn are powerful orators, but, I found the Respect party and the SDP to be riddled with the same trappings as the other political alternatives like Labour and Conservative and the Liberal party, besides the obvious differences such as perceptions on foreign policy and the wars Britain is fighting, I noticed a very similar use of speech, the rhythm of the rally and the ‘Fidel’ like punch of words to shake up the masses. I enjoy the music and power of these performances, but again feel that RAW’s witty, scholarly and optimistic way of doing this would be far more effective, yes, surprise equals information.
The path to Peace is as much a labyrinth of ambiguity as the roadway to war, and I find the compressed dialectic of Joyce and RAW at least two models of a supreme Unity, by way of the Unity of opposites, producing a witty truth, unequalled anywhere else, outside of witty and wise fiction like Tom Robbins, or great satire like that of Will Self. But RAW combines that Celtic Twist’ or (spiral) with operationalist scientific methodological research language, practical Magick and psychoactive drug experimentation, and contact with Daoist, Zen, and Sufi masters over a period of 50 years... all big plus points from my perspective, that give RAW a street credibility, missing from most Academic entities.
Sir Paul Mcartney has a music school in the UK. Where is the Lennon wing to be built? I ponder....
Everything I have already put here relates to my experiences in the UK, and not America, where like how Bobby describes Delaware, the boundaries between street level philosophy, to keep pushing a term, and Academia seems blurry, San Francisco and the Bay area spill over with hip and hopeful classes and libraries and bookshops that are packed with the good stuff. I repeat, the relations between the USA and Europe in these areas of study could be much broader and open, would this be under the umbrella of American literature, American studies, the American Anarchist tradition?
I would boldly state that for me, the new philosophy might include a kind of 'constructivist prospiracy'. Conspiracy theory is just one unacknowledged 'scientific research based philosophy' when looked at from RAW-esque Multiple points of view.
The essay 'TSOG' for example, may outline his political oriented philosophy, partly as a reaction to the Tsarist paradigm he saw emerging in American, partly describing his own conspiracy theory, and partly describing the kind of forces that smashed the 60's consciousness movement and counter-culture and have been meddling in affairs both home and abroad with their guns and dope trade ever since the dirty deals made after WWII.
For example, what does it mean for humanistic psychology in the UK when we consider the Tavistock Institute and the Royal Institute for Mental Health and their history of carrying out 'MK Ultra' like experiments on unwilling test subjects? It would not be so bad if the drugs used, such as LSD, were not prohibited today by the same forces that miss-used them over fifty years ago. So I see a blockage here, and I don't see or hear of many, if any scholars and teachers (in the UK) speaking out on this subject, compared with the US that has MAPS and the Beckley foundation, plus hundreds of lobby groups and 'entheogen' campaigners. Amazing and inspiring, and often frustrating to see the lack of such organization in Europe.
So experiment and research in these areas must be done illegally, underground, and with an element of secrecy and clandestine operation. The psychological and socio-cultural effects of this prohibition' on altered states and 'taboos' in general is yet another current that flows throughout all of RAW's output...
I would distinguish the difference between RAW and the Academic Philosphers by using the word 'street level, or street-wise' philosopher. RAW also fits the armchair philosopher, and even wheelchair philosopher model, for me, and will be forever be a beloved American Irish philosopher, along the current of Bishop Berkeley, O' Brien, Swift, Hamilton, Synge, Yeats, Joyce. Philosophy as art and art as philosophy. Poetry, Drama, Satire? Maybe that is partly resonsible for the RAW hush hush'?
I feel that RAW dissolves the imperialist paradigm, to go into some mighty big ideas for a mo', and remains unrecognized in Britain, maybe, in part because he has such a torrential rain of Celtic Twilight' acid it rubs up Brit' authority the wrong way, I have not heard this said much, but the question of recognition, Academic Recognition of philosophers is one I hold interest in, as, in my humble opinion... RAW and his tribes' just about wrap up the neurological relativisim of the Internet 'global village' age, with such cutting satire and explosive 'kapow' that you just feel the pull of truth-fun. Collectively, maybe some can recreate the vibe, but as an individual author, writer, philosopher, Dr. Wilson pulled it all together, at least for me. Maybe I skipped a few other philosophers?
I wish it were easier for me to create a divide between my own ideas, writing and thoughts, and my strong wish to forward the ideas and work left by Dr. Wilson. I have shrugged off the brush of being called a RAW disciple and continued the work, pulled along my this great community, without whom I maybe stuck in a bedroom in a life of books. I keep wanting to repeat simply 'Read him' and 'read him again' because RAW writes for the careful reader and the lucky re-reader, I think...
I have since moved from the UK, in part due to a lack resources to study and getting very little feedback from others outside of this here community, I had problem's simply giving the Maybelogic: DVD documentary movie to libraries, colleges and Universities. No interest, sadly. But now with youtube they can kiss the sky, the movies everywhere... and now I think where are their classes? where are the lectures? TED.com vs. Any UK university? such and such conference... and on.... Maybe in other parts of the UK I would have found better reception, but here in Amsterdam I find that the philosophy and thinking of some 'street level' philosophers can be grok'd, if only for a fleeting moment. But still, the cats are not recognized by the Academic Institutions, as far as I am aware.
Enjoy your class psyber, hope to hear more feedback and good luck with turning on your teachers to our man.
Some thoughts on RAW studies and finding a side-door entrance to the UK curriculum and the European market stall’ at the Global village.
I think RAW respected the multiculturalism, pantheism and diversity of languages and ideas of the quality critters he often referred to. Pound, Joyce, Yeats, Bruno, Vico, and Fenollosa were scribes for the McLuhan’s ‘global village’. And as I mentioned, therefore against British imperialism and centralized control of institutions, banking, education, politics, weapons.
RAW deploys ‘decentralized’ philosophy (Bruno, Joyce, Paul Levinson?) that we can trace through his fiction, his ‘holographic prose’, his speech, and through his life lived as a truly independent scholar activist journalist philosopher...
The study of Internet and Information technology, telecommunications etc,. Seems all the rage at the major learning institutions around the world, yet, where can you study ‘the tale of the tribe’? RAW’s history of ‘decentralized philosophy, and design science principles, and Neuro-linguistic relativism’ maybe one way to view it? What do Bucky, Shannon, Wiener, McLuhan... and Internet have in common?
Sharing, and the rare ability to share personal experience with a scientific method of observation, or methods, plural, maybe another thorn in RAW’s side when it comes to the education business, where text books and course work feed the Industry standards in the grey room. ‘think for yer’ self’ schmuck’ combined with ‘think for yourself, and question authority’ combined with the ‘free’ shared availability of RAW’s course work may lead to a sticky situation for many faculty staff and department heads, at some future juncture where ‘everything changes’ so obviously that only RAW and a few others will have remained weird enough to stay relative in a ‘exponentially changing’ seemingly psychedelic shared experience.
Or maybe I am dreaming and have cut myself off to live out an Invisible college’ fantasy, and to forever be stuck apart from any Institution, so to develop my independent feedback? Stephen in self inflicted Exile? A romantic, maverick, ? Whatever, with global internet communications we can all live as one University, if you like, as Wikipedia is now One university of one type of knowledge...and the power of connectivity and sharing across cultures far out reaches that of any single Institution of single corporate, sovereign entity. I think their definition as a finite entity bounds them, in many ways, whereas the Network seems to be king, not content, or cash or weapons stash. All has Changed and changed utterly’
Another of RAW’s unique and testable strokes of genius is to source and reference masses of academic material that now, due to internet search engines can still, and often does for me, turn up treasures in all sorts of nooks and cranniz’ take Ernest Fenollosa for example, I find the Fenollosa/Pound/Yeats synergy (founded in London when Mary McNeil Fenollosa passed on her late husbands notes to Ez, who was living with Yeats at the time) to be critical to the whole field of modernism, Post modernism, linguistics etc,. And have been surprised to have not found RAW anywhere in the published literature on this subject.
Here’s a little anecdotal example of my efforts to fwd/ RAW in the UK during the summer of 2006. I was invited by the SDP (who I bumped into on the street in Birmingham) to MARXISM’ a week-long conference held a University London, featuring many speakers on varied topics, all with a socialist and pretty political oriented glossing. While on the Uni’ campus, I tried walking into SOAS (School of Oriental and African Studies) with the express vision of turning somebody onto RAW’s interpretation of the Fenollosa’ manuscripts etc. But, I could not even get in the door past security, sorry son, you have to have an appointment. I did however get up and speak at a number of presentations, one time reading a full chapter from the Illuminati Papers, in a weak lecture on science fiction and social activism, I thought it was weak as the guy had not even heard of RAW... but the dialectic was all over the place. Book stands were lined up with Chomsky, Zinn, Parenti, George G, Tony Benn, Che’, Banksy and Hakim Bey, but alas uncle Bob was suspiciously absent, or, I was too stoned to see his books amidst all sea TEXTZ on resistance and revolution, although I did find him in the Disinfo’ book ‘Everything you know is wrong’
So I came away from Marxism 2006 a bit miffed, but still had a fun time and met many like-minded individuals who were visiting the event, and even liked the lecturers and speakers, maybe for their rhythm and prowess on the microphone, George G. And Tony Benn are powerful orators, but, I found the Respect party and the SDP to be riddled with the same trappings as the other political alternatives like Labour and Conservative and the Liberal party, besides the obvious differences such as perceptions on foreign policy and the wars Britain is fighting, I noticed a very similar use of speech, the rhythm of the rally and the ‘Fidel’ like punch of words to shake up the masses. I enjoy the music and power of these performances, but again feel that RAW’s witty, scholarly and optimistic way of doing this would be far more effective, yes, surprise equals information.
The path to Peace is as much a labyrinth of ambiguity as the roadway to war, and I find the compressed dialectic of Joyce and RAW at least two models of a supreme Unity, by way of the Unity of opposites, producing a witty truth, unequalled anywhere else, outside of witty and wise fiction like Tom Robbins, or great satire like that of Will Self. But RAW combines that Celtic Twist’ or (spiral) with operationalist scientific methodological research language, practical Magick and psychoactive drug experimentation, and contact with Daoist, Zen, and Sufi masters over a period of 50 years... all big plus points from my perspective, that give RAW a street credibility, missing from most Academic entities.
Sir Paul Mcartney has a music school in the UK. Where is the Lennon wing to be built? I ponder....
Everything I have already put here relates to my experiences in the UK, and not America, where like how Bobby describes Delaware, the boundaries between street level philosophy, to keep pushing a term, and Academia seems blurry, San Francisco and the Bay area spill over with hip and hopeful classes and libraries and bookshops that are packed with the good stuff. I repeat, the relations between the USA and Europe in these areas of study could be much broader and open, would this be under the umbrella of American literature, American studies, the American Anarchist tradition?
I would boldly state that for me, the new philosophy might include a kind of 'constructivist prospiracy'. Conspiracy theory is just one unacknowledged 'scientific research based philosophy' when looked at from RAW-esque Multiple points of view.
The essay 'TSOG' for example, may outline his political oriented philosophy, partly as a reaction to the Tsarist paradigm he saw emerging in American, partly describing his own conspiracy theory, and partly describing the kind of forces that smashed the 60's consciousness movement and counter-culture and have been meddling in affairs both home and abroad with their guns and dope trade ever since the dirty deals made after WWII.
For example, what does it mean for humanistic psychology in the UK when we consider the Tavistock Institute and the Royal Institute for Mental Health and their history of carrying out 'MK Ultra' like experiments on unwilling test subjects? It would not be so bad if the drugs used, such as LSD, were not prohibited today by the same forces that miss-used them over fifty years ago. So I see a blockage here, and I don't see or hear of many, if any scholars and teachers (in the UK) speaking out on this subject, compared with the US that has MAPS and the Beckley foundation, plus hundreds of lobby groups and 'entheogen' campaigners. Amazing and inspiring, and often frustrating to see the lack of such organization in Europe.
So experiment and research in these areas must be done illegally, underground, and with an element of secrecy and clandestine operation. The psychological and socio-cultural effects of this prohibition' on altered states and 'taboos' in general is yet another current that flows throughout all of RAW's output...
Monday, January 11, 2010
MAYBE LOGIC: The Lives and Ideas of Robert Anton Wilson
RAW and I met while he was making this Documentary movie in Santa Cruz with Deepleaf Productions. I swiftly got involved in the project, presenting different ideas and some support and contacts. I have one copy left here in Europe! But now it has appeared on youtube so i suppose this is the unnanounced global launch. Enjoy. --Steve Fly Agaric 23.
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Robert Anton Wilson - Maybe Logic: The Lives And Ideas Of Robert Anton Wilson
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Format: DVD
Country: US
Released: 2003
Genre: Non-Music
Style: Interview, Political, Education, Speech
Tracklist
| 001 | | Tuning In |
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| 002 | | Childhood Mysteries |
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| 003 | | Discordian Infallibility |
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| 004 | | Quantum Gamble |
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| 005 | | PPS Pain |
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| 006 | | Existential Maps |
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| 007 | | PPS Medicine |
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| 008 | | Conspiratorial Responsibility |
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| 009 | | Magick Science |
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| 010 | | Sirius Pookha |
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| 011 | | E-Prime |
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| 012 | | Green Donkey |
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| 013 | | Forgiveness |
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| 014 | | Santa Cruz Protest |
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| 015 | | Optimism |
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| 016 | | Infinite B.S. |
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| 017 | | End Credits |
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Credits
Artwork By [Package Design] - Propane Studio
Directed By, Written-By - Lance Bauscher
Executive Producer - Timothy F.X. Finnegan
Featuring - Douglas Rushkoff , Ivan Stang , Paul Krassner , R.U. Sirius , Tom Robbins , Valerie Corral
Music By - Amon Tobin , Animals On Wheels , Boards Of Canada , Cinematic Orchestra, The , Funki Porcini , Ognen Spiroski , Pullman , Rick Walker , Supplicants, The , Tarentel
Music By [Dvd Menu] - Fly Agaric 23
Narrator - Robert Anton Wilson
Other [Associate Producers] - Amanda Dofflemyer , Fly Agaric 23 , Katherine Covell
Other [Best Boy] - Robert Anton Wilson
Other [Camera] - Amanda Dofflemyer , David Allen , Ivan Stang , Katherine Covell , Lance Bauscher , Robert Dofflemyer
Producer, Edited By, Artwork By [Designed By] - Cody McClintock , Lance Bauscher , Robert Dofflemyer
Notes
Contains over 3 hours of material including Maybe Logic feature, expanded interviews with all the featured RAW cohorts, maybe logic exercises, and original, non-simultaneously, DVD-randomized footage of the best of Pope Bob.
More info available from http://www.maybelogic.com/.
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