US-vs-Wikileaks-whose-side-are-you-on?

• Every war results from the struggle for markets and spheres of influence, and every war is sold to the public by professional liars and totally sincere religious maniacs, as a Holy Crusade to save God and Goodness from Satan and Evil.--Robert Anton Wilson, Cosmic Trigger II : Down to Earth (1991)

US vs Wikileaks whose side are you on

Read more: US vs Wikileaks whose side are you on? - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/US-vs-Wikileaks-whose-side-are-you-on/articleshow/7010095.cms#ixzz16fp4fAcc

 

WASHINGTON: The mother of all leaks has engendered the mother of all debates.

The US government says by putting in public domain about 250,000 documents, nearly half of them classified and secret, Wikileaks is putting at risk lives of innocent individuals, endangering ongoing military and counterterrorism operations and jeopardizing ties between countries who are partners, allies and stakeholders in confronting common challenges.

Wikileaks says the release of the documents "reveals the contradictions between the US's public persona and what it says behind closed doors - and shows that if citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their wishes, they should ask to see what's going on behind the scenes."

The cables, Wikileaks maintains, "show the extent of US spying on its allies and the UN; turning a blind eye to corruption and human rights abuse in "client states"; backroom deals with supposedly neutral countries; lobbying for US corporations; and the measures US diplomats take to advance those who have access to them."

In sometimes angry and bitter correspondence, the two sides slugged it out in the days and hours before Wikileaks ignored pressures and threats to go ahead with the publication through select print media, causing worldwide convulsions that may reverberate for weeks and months to come.

Amid mounting pressure from Washington to back down from publishing a trove of documents leaked to it by a disgruntled and anarchy-loving US soldier, Wikileaks editor-in-chief Julian Assange wrote to the US ambassador in London Louis Susman on 26 November, asking "the United States Government to privately nominate any specific instances (record numbers or names) where it considers the publication of information would put individual persons at significant risk of harm."

Washington's snippy response came the very next day from Harold Hongju Koh, Legal Adviser to the State Department. Ignoring Assange's request for citing cases of risk and endangerment, Koh told him that "Despite your stated desire to protect those lives, you have done the opposite and endangered the lives of countless individuals."

"You have undermined your stated objective by disseminating this material widely, without redaction, and without regard to the security and sanctity of the lives your actions endanger," he said, adding, "We will not engage in a negotiation regarding the further release or dissemination of illegally obtained US. Government classified materials."

Assange's response: "Either there is a risk or there is not. You have chosen to respond in a manner which leads me to conclude that the supposed risks are entirely fanciful and you are instead concerned to suppress evidence of human rights abuse and other criminal behaviour."

The deadlock resulted in Administration officials, from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton down, scrambling to get in touch with their counterparts across the world to assure them of Washington's sensitivity to the situation even as Wikileaks parceled out the trove of information to the New York Times, The Guardian and Der Spiegel.

The primary concern in Washington is that many of the US internal deliberations and assessment will be taken as policy. There are also fears that US diplomats, including ambassadors, CIA station chiefs and political counselors, will lose access to sources and trust of their foreign counterparts.

Washington's new ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter led the effort to salvage US credibility, writing in an Op-ed in a Pakistani newspaper that "people of good faith recognise that diplomats' internal reports do not represent a government's official foreign policy. In the United States, they are one element out of many that shape our policies, which are ultimately set by the president and the secretary of state."

But Wikileaks has been unsparing in its critique of US practices. In a preamble to its expose, it taunted the United States, saying, "Every American schoolchild is taught that George Washington - the country's first President - could not tell a lie. If the administrations of his successors lived up to the same principle, today's document flood would be a mere embarrassment."

Instead, it said, "the US Government has been warning governments - even the most corrupt - around the world about the coming leaks and is bracing itself for the exposures."

The embassy cables, it warned, will be released in stages over the next few months, adding. "The subject matter of these cables is of such importance, and the geographical spread so broad, that to do otherwise would not do this material justice."

Read more: US vs Wikileaks whose side are you on? - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/US-vs-Wikileaks-whose-side-are-you-on/articleshow/7010095.cms#ixzz16fogI5Ls

Conspiracy is just another name for coalition--Robert Anton Wilson, The Historical Illuminatus as spoken by Luigi Duccio

Bavarian Serbian Spanish Dutch American English Nazi Hunt

"BERLIN — Germany’s justice minister suggested Friday that a Nazi wanted by the Netherlands could serve his sentence in Germany but Bavaria, where the 88-year-old lives, said it needed significant new evidence.
Dutch prosecutors on Thursday issued a European arrest warrant for SS assassin Klaas Carel Faber, who has been living freely in Germany since escaping from a Dutch prison in 1952 where he was serving a life sentence.
Three previous attempts to bring him to justice have failed, and German Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, amid pressure from Israel, called Friday on the state of Bavaria, which has jurisdiction on the case, "to look for alternative solutions."--LINK

"Serbia is seeking extradition from the United States of a naturalized American citizen who is suspected of serving in a Nazi unit that killed about 17,000 Jewish and other civilians during World War II, the justice minister said Friday. The American, Peter Egner, 88, was born in Yugoslavia but emigrated to the United States in 1960, gaining citizenship six years later. He has lived in a retirement community outside Seattle, fighting federal government efforts to strip him of his American citizenship, which would pave the way for his extradition. --http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/world/europe/27briefs-serbia.html


"It is possible that within a short time a court in the United States will prohibit the publication of the account before us. In the meantime, Haaretz has obtained the testimony given last month by William Gowen, a former intelligence officer in the United States Army, at a federal court in San Francisco. The testimony contains historical and political explosives. It links Giovanni Battista Montini, who later became Pope Paul VI, to the theft of property of Jewish, Serb, Russian, Ukrainian and Roma victims during World War II in Yugoslavia. Many studies and stories have already been written about the thundering silence of Pope Pius XII, who reigned in the Vatican during World War II.

Now the former intelligence officer's testimony has revealed that after the war, Montini, who during the war served as the Vatican's deputy secretary of state under the pope, helped hide and launder property that had been stolen from, among others, Jews and was involved in the sheltering and smuggling of Croatian war criminals, such as the leader of the Ustashe movement, Ante Pavelic.

The smuggling and hiding of Croatian war criminals was part of the extensive network known as the Rat Lines. Senior officials at the Vatican were involved in hiding and smuggling Nazi war criminals and their collaborators so they would not be arrested and tried. Hundreds of war criminals were provided with church and Red Cross papers that enabled them to hide in safe houses and then flee from Europe, mainly to the Middle East and South America. Among them were Klaus Barbie ("the butcher of Lyon"), Adolf Eichmann, Dr. Josef Mengele and Franz Stengel, the commander of the Treblinka death camp.

The Vatican network was also used by leaders of the Ustashe - the nationalist Croatian Catholic movement that was active in Croatia and collaborated with the Nazi occupation. "The Reverend Dr. Prof. Krunoslav Draganovic seemed to be in cooperation with the Ustasha network. And he was given a Vatican assignment as the apostolic visitator for Croatians, which meant he reported directly to Monsignor Giovanni Battista Montini," states an American document based on a report from the Italian police; the document was recently placed in evidence at the court in San Francisco where Gowen testified.

The leaders of the Ustashe headed by Pavelic are the ones who stole the victims' property: art and jewelry - silver and mostly gold. After the war they fled with the treasure and laundered it with the help of Vatican institutions. According to Gowen's testimony, Montini, who in 1964 became the first pope to visit the State of Israel, was also involved in the Vatican's help in laundering the wealth.--http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/tied-up-in-the-rat-lines-1.62204


"Ratlines were systems of escape routes for Nazis and other fascists fleeing Europe at the end of World War II. These escape routes mainly led toward havens in South America, particularly Argentina, Paraguay, Brazil, and Chile. Other destinations included the United States and perhaps Canada and the Middle East. There were two primary routes: the first went from Germany to Spain, then Argentina; the second from Germany to Rome to Genoa, then South America; the two routes "developed independently" but eventually came together to collaborate.^[1]

One ratline, made famous by the Frederick Forsyth thriller The Odessa File, was run by the ODESSA (Organisation der ehemaligen SS-Angehörigen; "Organization of Former SS-Members") network organized by Otto Skorzeny.<sup>[citation needed]--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_%28history%29

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Spain, not Rome, was the "first center of ratline activity that facilitated the escape of Nazi fascists", although the exodus itself was planned within the Vatican.^[4] Charles Lescat, a French Catholic member of Action Française (an organization suppressed by Pius XI and rehabilitated by Pius XII), and Pierre Daye, a Belgian with contacts in the Spanish government, were among the primary organizers.^[5] Lescat and Daye were the first able to flee Europe, with the help of French cardinal Eugene Tisserant and Argentine cardinal Antonio Caggiano.^[5]
By 1946, there were probably hundreds of war criminals in Spain, and thousands of former Nazis and fascists.^[6] According to US Secretary of State James F. Byrnes, Vatican cooperation in turning over asylum-seekers was "negligible".^[6] According to Phayer, Pius XII "preferred to see fascist war criminals on board ships sailing to the New World rather than seeing them rotting in POW camps in zonal Germany".^[7] Unlike the Vatican emigration operation in Italy, centered on Vatican City, the ratlines of Spain, although "fostered by the Vatican" were relatively independent of the hierarchy of the Vatican Emigration Bureau.^{[8]--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_%28history%29}

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Vatican Bank 'investigated over money-laundering'

 

The inquiry into Ettore Gotti Tedeschi has surprised the Vatican

The head of the Vatican Bank, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, is under investigation as part of a money-laundering inquiry, police sources say.--http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11380628

"For Professor Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, economist and banker, and president of the Vatican bank, the main cause of the economic crisis in the West is the collapse in the birth rate. Gotti Tedeschi has been maintaining this thesis for some time, with great vigour. And he argues for it frequently at conferences and in articles in L'Osservatore Romano. Some, however, continue to think that what is blocking economic development is not a reduction, but an uncontrolled rise in the birth rate.--http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=24064

"Gen. Gehlen and Gen. Vlassov formed what became the Gehlenapparat, the CIA's main source of info on Soviet affairs; Gehlen became the fulcrum of the CIA's "Soviet penetration" sector, working under James Jesus Angleton, Chief of Counter-Intelligence, breeder of prize orchids, lover of the arts, and a devout Catholic.

Since the U.S. government based its foreign policies on CIA reports, and the CIA based its Soviet reports on Gehlen and some other former Nazis, plus a crew of Mystical Tsarists, as filtered and interpreted by a Papist intellectual, the U.S. government's ideas and actions became increasingly "weird, " bizarre and frightening, in the view of the rest of the world. The results are very sad and very funny. In a nutshell, most of the world thinks we've gone batshit crazy. "Tsarists and Nazis and spooks, oh my!"--http://www.rawilson.com/tsog.html

The Future of the Future by RAW

The Future of the Future by Robert Anton Wilson, excerpt from Chaos and Beyond.

There was a Fundamentalist Futurist back in the 1890's who demonstrated that New York City would be abandoned as unfit for habitation by the 1930s. His argument was based on projection forward of population trends, and he correctly estimated that population would grow from 4 million to over 7 million in 40 years. (He didn't guess it would reach over 12 million by now.) It was then obvious, he said, that the amount of horses necessary to provide transportation for that many people would result in a public health hazard of incredible dimensions: there would be horse manure up to the third floor windows everywhere in Manhattan. This illustrates the most frequent fallacy found in Future projections: the "elementalistic fallacy" named by Alfred Korzybski. The elementalistic fallacy as Korzybski noted, seems to be built into our very language. We can talk about Joe Smith in isolation from his (or any) environment; we can therefore think about Mr. Smith in such fictitious isolation; and in such "elementalistic fallacy" we will always draw wrong conclusions, because Mr. Smith cannot exist without some environment. (He will explode in a vacuum, and without a social world his mind will similarly explode -- or implode -- or at least mutate shockingly, as isolation experiments have shown. )

Projecting population forward without projecting other factors forward has produced numerous elementalistic fallacies similar to thinking of Joe Smith without an environment. Malthus, for instance, "proved" that population will always increase faster than resources, but this was disproven by technological history, and we now understand that "resources" only exist when identified by analysis and each new discovery in pure science shows us new resources everywhere.

One example: the Newtonian system allowed us to tap 0.001 per cent of the energy in a glass of water; 19th Century thermodynamics showed us how to tap 0.01 per cent of that energy; we can now tap 1.0 per cent. Nobody knows how much we'll be able to tap in 50 years.

Elementalistic fallacies abound in Future projections (including my own). We are only gradually and gropingly learning to think "non-elementalistically" (in Korzybski's phrase) or "synergetically" as Bucky Fuller liked to say. I have found one quick way to avoid the more obvious elementalistic and Fundamentalistic errors, which is this:

Whenever I project one trend forward, I then re-analyze the situation, projecting at minimum five other trends forward also.

For instance, lifespan and population have both been increasing in the past 200 years. Projecting these trends forward elementalistically (in isolation) has led to some notable Doomsday scenarios in which humanity overcrowds itself to death. An entirely different picture emerges, however, if one projects these trends synergetically along with five other trends, such as:

The effect of industrialism on population. As documented by Fuller (Critical Path) a nation's population only rises rapidly in the transition from feudalism to industrialism, then levels off when industrialism is well established in a country.

The emergence of Feminism and self-choice among women, beginning with the 18th century radicalism of Mary Wollstonecraft and now including Women's Liberation movements in all parts of the world -- even dawningly in Islamic nations.

The movement of communication technology into space, with clear trends indicating that "industrial" (or more likely, post-industrial) technology will follow, with workers and then families and then schools and grocers and museums, etc. moving into space colonies.

The continued improvement in birth control technology and the fading line between contraception and abortion. There is already a heated debate, for instance, about whether certain devices -- e.g. the IUD -- "are" or "are not" abortifacients.

The neuroscience revolution (or H.E.A.D. Revolution -- Hedonic Engineering And Development) with its increasing promise that humans in the near future will achieve more freedom from mechanical conditioned reflexes (both "physical" and "mental") than ever before.

Whenever I try to project all five of these trends even 40 years into the future, I find the "overcrowding" problem seems less likely than New York being buried in horse manure. To get a feel for synergetic thinking, try your own projection, "guestimating" what the next decade will bring in each of these fields, and the decade after that, and so on, to 2029.

TSOG: Inspired by The Tale of the Tribe MLA class 2007.

"The true patriot does not love his government. The true patriot loves his country and watches his government," Darryl Eberhart.



"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies - Winston Churchill to Joseph Stalin

TSOG

In some of the unforgettable courses led by Dr. Wilson at Maybelogic Academy such as Non-Euclidean politics, Illuminatus and The Tale of the Tribe we were presented - for class course-work - his insightful essay TSOG [march 2001] also the title of his book TSOG: [The thing that ate the Constitution] published by New Falcon. The essay seems to me a condensed overview of some of RAW's general concerns: The Tsarist Occupation Government - it's infestations and historical lineage throughout the 20th century, with a focus upon the United States of America. i.e The CIA-Nazi-Tsarist aliegence.

Not surprisingly to many, some parts of RAW's repertoire often get buried, ignored and shrugged off. Fewer folk seem to have looked further into the conspianoid world of TSOG and fewer still dare publish their findings, at least without direct reference to RAW's essay TSOG. This essay is an attempt at just that. 

RAW has this TSOG theme running throughout most of his works as a neurolinguistic hook, one single colour in his rainbow of themes, a part of his general method that i like to call holographic prose - orienting the readers nervous system into a more balanced, awake state. A Maybe state.

My interpretation of maybelogic and E-prime are under development and I hope the reader will be gentle with any assertions i make. Writing about RAW and his works seems like writing about Einstein or Alfred Korzybski sometimes, such is his genius and complexity that i often wonder what words can possibly simplify his ideas, yet contributing at the maybelogic academy and upon the various courses with RAW i feel inclined to simply write out my subjective experiences and share them with others.

I wish more people from the Maybelogic Academy would feedback their experiences, we need every bright bard and mystic and Discordian to help turn the tide. Maybelogic Quarterly is such a vehicle, and so i choose to write about RAW explicitly riding the seat of my pants. I aim to provide something of interest to the Maybelogicians and also the general public who may not have read a book since leaving school. I also strive to provide something that RAW himself might enjoy, as he has provided such pleasure and insight and brevity with his own work.

I have re-read the TSOG essay and gone back over some of my posts from the various courses in which this essay was set as the foundation for a weekly assignment, adding a few of my own personal experiences and independent research, guided by lady synchronicity and her band of rapscalions; bringing them up to date and into timespace. Within the last few months [october-December 2006] i have noticed an upsurge of faith based political ideologies and the kind of spooky government behavior that RAW's TSOG essay [March 2001] warns us about so passionately and urgently. I therefore also find an urgency in bringing TSOG and my own interpretations of it to the public - crossing the Atlantic to share this wisdom with Britain and the United States of Europe seems critical if we are to better understand the forces at work within this conspiracy.

I tackle this challenging subject by spinning quotes [mostly from Pound's Cantos] as orienteering tools that help the images connect and take root.

I'll synthesize unconsciously--the quotes--into my own musings about TSOG, hopefully turning hash browns into roast beef. My aims and objectives are to produce an original revisionist historical research investigation that thinks globally and acts locally. It is Conducted and spun by a working class but unemployed British DJ, poet, drummer and swimactivist for the express purpose of drawing attention to the TSOG as described by RAW and including my own 5 penny contributions and weird feedback - something RAW encouraged upon the courses.

Ezra Pound writes: "Peace comes of communication".  So pick up your pens and do it. Keep thinking. Asking questions and conducting research.  



Fly Agaric 23.

Everybody who has ever worked for a corporation knows that corporations conspire all the time. Politicians conspire all the time, pot-dealers conspire not to get caught by the narcs, the world is full of conspiracies. Conspiracy is natural primate behavior.
--ROBERT ANTON WILSON.The I in the Triangle, speech held at a bookstore in Santa Cruz, California (1990).

For more info on the Gehlenapparat, see The Yankee and Cowboy War by Carl Oglesby, Berkeley Medallion, NY, 1977; and Everything Is Under Control by RAWilson,
Harper, NY, 1998. The best overview of TSOG/CIA operations in general is Norman Mailer's docu-novel
Harlot's Ghost, Random House, NY, 1991, in which Angleton appears as "Hugh Montague" and Gehlen has a walk-on under his own name.
On the Gladio/P2 side of the TSOG, excellent books include The Strange Death of God's Banker, Foot and della Torre, Orbis, London, 1984; The Calvi Affair, by Larry Gurwin, Pan, London, 1984; The Brotherhood, by Stephen Knight, Grenada, London, 1984. The Calvi "ghost banks" and their strange links with real banks, including Chase Manhattan, are discussed amply in In Banks We Trust, Doubleday, NY, 1984, by Penny Lernoux, who leaves open the question of how many of the real banks were unwitting accomplices and how many knew what was going on and just kept mum while raking in the profits.
In God's Name, by David Yallop, Cape, London 1984, covers all this in greater depth, and also explores Licio Gelli's role in creating fake ID for Nazi war criminals, whom he later farmed out to the CIA death squads. It also adds Pope John Paul I to the list of mysterious deaths involving the Vatican Bank, along with Pecorelli, Moro, Calvi et. al.
My current acceptance that the Mafia killed Calvi [in previous writings I was unsure] rests on the confession of Calogero Ganci, a Mafia hitman turned informant, who says he strangled Calvi himself. See London Times, 20 June 1996. Ganci was never told why the mob wanted "God's banker" dead; his job was to kill people, not to ask rude questions. Mrs. Calvi, the widow, still claims the orders came from the Vatican.
Our current Tsar's war crimes are documented in "Overwhelming Force," by Seymour Hersh, The New Yorker, 22 May 2000.
The best depth analysis of Mystical Tsarism remains The Mass Psychology of Fascism, by Wilhelm Reich, M.D. Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, New York, 1970. Although Dr Reich doesn't analyze Tsarism in particular, he relates Fascism to the dogmatic religions, faith in "leaders" ["little Fathers"]and sexual misery of all the "Patriarchal Authoritarian" regimes throughout history, and his major bio-psychological theorems describe both Russian and American Tsarism as neatly as they fit the Holy Inquisition or German-Italian Fascism.
Or -- you can find most of this data, in one form or another by simply surfing the web. Set your search engine for "Rheinhold Gehlen," "Cisalpine Bank,""Licio Gelli," "Gladio" and all the other individual and group names in this synopsis, and you'll be astounded at how many Dirty Secrets are now open to the light of day.

No more rage against the machine - In Depth - Al Jazeera English

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